An archeologist studying Mount Rushmore 2000 years after the inscriptions may well deduce that the statues of Mount Rushmore were made by Latin Americans and even guess the date incorrectly. Their early inscriptions were in Aramaic, but gradually switched to Arabic, and since they had writing, it was they who made the first inscriptions in Arabic. So away with Thamud! Do you construct on every elevation a sign amusing yourselves? He who had faith said (to Pharaoh and his company): O my people, I fear for you the likes of the day of the confederates, the likes of the fate of the people of Noah, Ad, and Thamud and those after them. The same can be said of Median Saleh, much of the area is still hidden under sand. [31][32] Other Arab tribes migrated into Sudan in the 12th century and intermarried with the indigenous populations, forming the Sudanese Arabs. (2/434), As for the related Hadith reports related to the incident during the Tabuk expedition they either do not mention Thamud by name or say. Now today, Thamudic ones have not remained and what is preserved are the Nabatean ruins, Assalam alikum I think what the people are trying to say is if I got this right is that the hadith says dont enter the homes houses of thamud so the verses makes it sound like the houses were still standing tall back then and some non muslims use this hadith to say the muhammad peace be upon him thought that these houses that were built by the thamud but that he got it wrong because these tombs were built by the nabtions not thamud and Ibn Kathir thought the same this is what I think they mean. The sentence, This structure is not only large enough and a couple more contained links. Allah mentions how there were actually nine families that pretty much ran everything in this society. Beni Hassan defeated both Berbers and Black Africans in the region, pushing them southwards to the Senegal river while the Arab tribes settled in Mauritania. The wordings themselves state so and all the tafaseer also state this. I just had the chance to look at the comments now and I dont seem to understand the problem here. [Quran 27:45]. However, now none may be visible and what is visible now are those made centuries later. Saudi Arabia, in terms of archaeology, is really untouched. It is possible that multiple unrelated groups took on the name of Thamud; they probably spoke Old Arabic. They became two parties quarreling with each other. 63-65. Theres no real reason to mention them lastly, except they came after al-Rass and they are also included in this chronological order as well. A number of them branched out, which later became independent tribes (sub-tribes). The Bible makes a claim that a particular time in history, a people who lived in in the kingdom of EdomEdomites predate the Nabateans or the current historically accepted date of the structures carved from the mountainscarved out structures in the hills and mountains. The Story of Adam (The First Man) _ part 1. Adites conquered Iraq and Syria mixing with the Akkadians and Amorites( They are known as the people of Us, When actual tribe of ad perished Prophet Hud pbuh was with the banu thamud who are from him, they livedfrom North Arabia to greater part of Syria mixing with the Assyrians . In fact, they are no recognised as Nabatean tombs, resembling the earlier more primitive ones among those to be seen at Petra in present day Jordan, not the late elaborately carved Greco-Roman facades. Seeking blessings from relics of the righteous? Therefore, the Adnanites are descendants of Abraham. You have no god other than Him. Asalam Alie Kum their country was called Arabia Petraea, the rocky; and their metropolis Petra, the rock: Jerom says that they that inhabited the southern part of the country and dwelt in caves cut out of the rock, to screen them from the heat of the sun: or, thou that dwellest in the circumferences of the rock F16; round about it, on the top of it, in a tower built there, as Kimchi and Ben Melech. What are the Sunnahs and etiquettes that we should >>> , - ?____ Fatwa . Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best. They were more sophisticated than the Aad. Though one could argue that they knew of Salih and hence Allah could hold them responsible, but this is speculation. Obadiah 1:3 Allah does not want wrong for the servants. It does not imply that they were carved by members of the ancient tribe of Thamd. Prior to the Muslim conquest of Egypt, Egypt was under Greek and Roman influence. Mostafa Badawi, in his book Ancient Prophets of Arabiasays thatthe people ofThamdlived in the 8th century BCE in the al-Hijr region and were destroyed. [16] It is possible that the Thamud were not one tribe, and that other tribes took on the name of Thamd after the original tribe by that name had gone extinct. Ok thanks jazzakkallah last questions and ill leave it at that what do you mean not on the surface and is 89:9 saying the Arabs could still see those buildings because it says (the rocks it uses al the why not just say rocks and what does it mean by rocks does it mean houses or mountains thanks Some have shelves carved into the rock; one has a large room, possibly big enough to house a council. Instead, they tried to engage Salih in debate. They built buildings on the land and also carved them in hills. 15:75 can also be interpreted as a HISTORICAL sign/reminder when referring to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The Nabateans - - * - So, basically during the time of the Prophet (), their remains were not on the surface and only some of them were visible. and the pride of your heart have deceived you, Think over this in detail. Personallhy, I think that number is too soon. This is the temple that was built by the tribal unit of Thamd, the leaders of their unit, so that it might be established by their hands and be their place of veneration forever with the support of Antistius Adventus, the governor. The Arabs then could see Thamud dwellings but we today cannot. Assalamualaikum what do u think of the carbon dating and the presence of wells? Ignore the entire thing and continue to spread their deception and lies. This bears enough similarity to the description of the Thamd dwellings in theQurn to induce certain authors to claim that they are the houses of the Thamd. ** For what purpose is the tale of 'd and Thamd? Anyway, whats really important is what led to their punishment. Syed Suleman Nadvi discusses this in Tarikh Ard al-Quran vol.2. When they cut the hamstring of a female camel that God had sent down for them, despite the prophet's warnings, they were annihilated, except for Salih and his followers. The Thamud did not worship God, and were disobedient. The first ancient tribe of Thamud should be distinguished from later tribes named Thamud by historians and archaeologists, as well as the region itself, which was known as the land of Thamud and sometimes simply Thamud.. [15:80-84], , Abdullah b. He replaced the people of the Flood with the Aad and then replaced the Aad with the Thamud. We have to be open to the idea that a person living thousands of years ago will have a different concept of a place of dwelling than we, in the 21st century, do. You mentioned that there are many house-like structures in the valley today, so perhaps they are one of those. Instead, the camel is killed by a certain "accursed Amar", and the camel's foal stands upon a rock and curses Thamud, leading to the tribe's annihilation except for a single lame woman who is spared to spread the message of the destruction. Yes, I understood but if you read my comment, youll see that this problem is addressed. The prophet was a man of his times and of his own personal experiences, he could have attributed what he saw to the Thamud due to the fact that the Thamud lived on the exact region as these ruins. On the first day, their skin would turn yellow; on the second day, red; and on the final day of destruction, black. But as a sign of their wickedness, they killed her. [19], To the Thamd, We sent their brother, li. The tribes of 'Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. The tribes of Ad and Thamud were ancient people who existed on the Arabian Peninsula many centuries ago and were recipients of the Prophets Hud and Salih, respectively. The Meaning of La Ilaha Illa Allah (Tawheed): What is Islam? In Islamic prophetic history, the Prophet Salih (s) was sent to the first tribe of Thamud before the coming of Moses (s), since one of the believers warned Pharaoh about what happened to them. [2] The Quran endorses this fact; they were not outright destroyed and the believers survived: Then look! This law they hold because they judge that those who possess these things will be easily compelled by powerful men to do what is ordered them because of their enjoyment of these things. [7] Today, all these areas are located in the Arab world with the exception of Khuzestan. 1. And We gave them Our signs, but from them they were turning away. Replying by always staying what is the problem or what is the issue seems to have a rebuking or shaming tone that appears very harsh to the questioner. The Kingdom of Thamud was the first existing kingdom on the Arabian peninsula, according to Assyrian and Roman sources. According to the Islamic tradition, the Thamd were warned by the prophet li to worship Allh, but the Thamd stubbornly refused and as a result were annihilated either by a thunderbolt or by an earthquake. As also 'Ad and Thamud, and the Companions of the Rass, and many a generation between them. Amend their accusation to now include the Bible also. Doesnt matter if they were destroyed before or after Ibn Kathir and the land is not in Yemen. Verily, Thamud disbelieved in their Lord. But the Thamud cut its hamstring or otherwise wounded it. BUY ISLAMIC BOOKS by The Sincere Seeker for Adults & Children on AMAZON: https://www.amazon.com/thesincereseekerFOLLOW The Sincere Seeker on social media to . This poses problematic. Thus, at the end, the people of al-Hijr are mentioned. Akkadians are from Prophet Hud pbuh. Point by Ismail about the order of the messengers from earliest to latest also is something to ponder over and maybe the people of the Hijr are different from the Thamud. It is very conceivable that those individuals who established this society became the pillars of the nation and their descendents took advantage of that and maintained a stranglehold on the wealth of the nation. Similarly, much later, Thamud were wiped out and their remains were taken over by Midianites of which we see the pictures and they constructed over them as per their methods. Al-ijr, Saudi Arabia: ancient Thamd house, This article was most recently revised and updated by. They mixed with the people of Qahtan and descendants of Prophet Abraham pbuh. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. This also makes it clear that the people were punished. 85 percent of the region is still untouched, and hidden. The Middle verse in chapter (25) of the Noble Quran talks about Noah's people, Ad (the people of the prophet Hud) and Thamud (the people of the prophet Salih). (LogOut/ 3 The pride of your heart has deceived you, 4. This came to pass, and Thamud was annihilated. What the visitor sees there today are hewn hills; no mansions remain on the plain. We simply do not know the true date and timeline for when the first Thamud of the Quran existed and, therefore, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to accurately identify the ruins of such an ancient civilization that lived thousands years ago. The pagan Arabs were acquainted with their existence but nothing more is known about them. According to the Quran and the Islamic exegetical tradition, the Thamud were an early Arab tribe who rejected the message of the prophet Salih. They were Giants and so powerful. Thank you for answering my questions thanks I just have 2 more questions then Im done then ill leave it jazzakkallah Not every opinion that he held was necessarily a divine revelation. [22], The first wave of Arab immigration to the Maghreb began with the conquest of the Maghreb in the seventh century, with the migration of sedentary and nomadic Arabs to the Maghreb from the Arabian Peninsula. These prefixes ignored in the alphabetical ordering: Al, Bani, Banu. They were a little more inquisitive (at least at first). Can it be said that the Thamud made wells and their successors i.e. The story of musa (muses) a.s. _ Magic and Illusi Suhih Muslim _ Book of "End of the World", Who is Musa a.s. (Moses) ? In the historical and archaeological record, both were contemporaries, but by the time of the Prophet in the 7th century AD, they had become little more than a distant memory, and their ruins, places of myth and legend. It describes what they used to do i.e. Before sending the punishment on them, Allah sent two prophets to these nations. As we know, he gave the nations some period until the determined day of punishment. [4] Historian Israel Eph'al questions the plausibility of Sargon's account, as the briefness of Sargon's account seems to be at odds with the fact that such a campaign deep into Arabia would have been one of the longest wars in Assyrian history, and because no mention of plunder is provided. The same can be said about 7:84 where Allah SWT is telling us to SEE the end of Sodom and Gomorrah. 9. The story of Miraj- Isra _ Suhih al Bukhari, Can you brush your teeth in Ramadan? Perhaps these survivors were Prophet Hud (AS) and his followers. Perhaps they couldnt understand the significance of receiving a camel. Nevertheless, a number of interesting archaeological sites still exist in Arabia that have preserved the ruins of lost civilizations, such as the Archaeological Site of Al-Hijr (Madin Slih). But the Thamud let their education and knowledge go to their heads. Good reply Adeel. We find ruins of so many past civilisations such as Indus Valley (Mohenjodaro, Harappa), Sodom, and so on. He said, "My people, worship God. Like some of the tombs have window openings and some of the niches are not much more wide than a hand, which hardly can serve as a resting place for a human body. Honestly I dont understand the confusion at and all of it has been dealt with above. It sure is something to ponder over and come up with a hujja to explain. the fate and remains of past generations with our eyes bcuz verse 25:37 speaks about the people of Nuh AS and it tells us that Allah SWT left a sign for mankind. Qur'an and Hadith on Thamud and their Dwellings Abu Rahma / March 22, 2016 It is argued that the Qur'an and the Prophet () made an error in history and facts [1]. They did worship Allah, which Ill prove soon. The Aad werent about that. Chapter___ MUSLIMS ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS AND TERRORI Chapter___ Human Embryonic Development __ Qur'an a Atowar Rahman Salafi _ Atowar Rahman Salafi | atow Suhih Bukhari_ Book of "End of the World". Here is how their argument goes: The Quran describes prophet called Salih ( ), who lived in the Thamud tribe. As I mentioned in our discussion on your post regarding Gog and Magog, I was very interested to read your reply to the missionary accusation regarding Thamud, because the argument seems to be rather recent and it seems to at least on its surface have good argumentation and hence we as Muslims must develop countermeasures. As their material wealth increased so, too, did their evil ways while their virtue decreased. But given the possibility that these ruins could have once been created, either completely or partially, by the Thamud and taken later by the Edomites in Petra and then the Nabateans, who inscribed graffiti on themtheir inscriptions are exactly thator even carved out recesses inside of them, there isnt an unsurmountable problem. Again the burden of proof is on us that this was the case. Accordingly, the Thamud were a powerful and idolatrous tribe living in Hegra, now called Madin li, the Cities of liin northwestern Arabia. We must look at them, ponder over the signs of Allah and take heed. So leave her to eat within Allahs land and do not touch her with harm, lest there seize you a painful punishment. And 'Ad and Thamud (people)! The earliest known mention of this new 'Thamud' in historical sources is is a 715 BC inscription of the Assyrian king Sargon II, which mentions them as being among the people of eastern and central Arabia subjugated by the Assyrians. where they used to live. The Ghassanids increased the Semitic presence in the then Hellenized Syria, the majority of Semites were Aramaic peoples. And perhaps, just like the Aad before them, they forgot the faith of Tawheed practiced by their ancestors and slipped into worhsiping idols. They were successors to the People of Noah. I would rather think that the Thamud were more like two or three hundred years after the Aad. [Qur'an . Thamd, in ancient Arabia, tribe or group of tribes known to be extant from the 8th century bce to the 5th century ce. p.190. Thereupon Allahs Messenger () commanded that the water collected for drinking should be spilt and the flour should be given to the camels and commanded them that the water for drinking should be taken from that well where the she-camel used to come. Just leave her alone. [23] Arab tribes such as Banu Muzaina migrated, and the Arab Muslims in the region had more impact on the culture of the Maghreb than the region's conquerors before and after them. Furthermore, there is also proof that they had some elements of true Islam in their faith. You would only make my loss greater. 11. As Suleyman Dost observes, The Qurns reference to rock-cut dwellings fits the picture perfectly with the exception that these carved niches do not seem to have functioned as living areas3, Returning to textual references, Diodorus, a Greek historian writing in the first century BC, mentions a group called Thamoudnoi in North-Western Arabia4. God sent down a milch camel as his sign, and Salih told his countrymen that they should not harm the camel and allow it to drink from their well. When Salih began to preach monotheism, the Thamud demanded that he prove his prophethood by bringing forth a pregnant camel from solid rock. Regardless, the thamud tribes structures remained for people to see according to Quran. They said, "li, We used to have such great hope in you. They are related to the Banu Abs tribe.[33]. The Thamud did not worship God, and were disobedient. [22], A poem attributed to Umayya ibn Abi--alt, a Meccan contemporary of Muhammad who refused to accept Islam, contains a reference to the camel and Thamud. The general consensus among 14th-century Arab genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: . This is attested by Safaitic inscriptions (beginning in the 1st century BCE) and the many Arabic personal names in Nabataean inscriptions. And they used to deny Our Ayat! [26] The Arab descendants of the original Arabian settlers who continue to speak Arabic as a first language currently form the single largest population group in North Africa. These verses can be found in multiple books, we will focus on Obadiah and Jeremiah. Dealing with faith-related doubts in Islam. When God permitted the prophet to do this, some of the tribesmen followed Salih, while many powerful leaders continued to oppose him. Wadi al-Qura, refer to the article above. They were built not before the time of Musa ( ), but during the first century BC and the first century CE. 3) The tombs were in fact built by Thamud as houses and the Nabateans simply inscribed them later. There has come to you clear evidence from your Lord. A. Yusuf Ali wrote: The Thamud people were destroyed by a dreadful earthquake which threw them prone on the ground and buried them with their houses and their fine buildings., A terrible earthquake came and buried the people [of Thamud] and destroyed their boasted civilization. But before we get to that, lets analyze their responses. And [We destroyed] 'Aad and Thamud and the companions of the well and many generations between them. well) who killed their Prophet AS and hung him inside a well. A Reminder of the Story of 'Aad and Thamud by Ibn Kathir, taken from Tafsir Ibn Kathir (Abridged), Volume 8 Darussalam 2000 As for `Ad, they were arrogant in the land without right and they said: 'Who is mightier than us in strength?' See they not that Allah Who created them was mightier in strength than them. But I digress. Finally, we should understand that Allah has no problem replacing one people with another. God then destroyed the tribe, except for Salih and a few other righteous men. 2) The dwellings of Thamud are elsewhere in the valley of Hijr. The Nabataean kingdom existed from the 3rd or 2nd century BC, could it be that their punishment was a long one after a prophet was sent to them sometime before Prophet Isa AS? Also what time do you think noah ad and thamud came. Like Petra, much of the ruins are still hidden, we cant make absolute conclusions unless and until we have access to all of the monuments, tombs, structures, which are still hidden. So they concluded that the Nabateans did constructed them. According to Arab tradition, the Adnanites are called Arabised because it is believed that Ishmael Spoke Aramaic and Egyptian then learnt Arabic from a Qahtanite Yemeni woman that he married. There is a popular historical show in Saudi Arabia with Eid Al-Yahya where they visit the area of Madain Saleh and he definitely makes a credible case showing that Madain Saleh has indications of being built by Thamud, but being used and completed by the Nabateans. Indeed, we see in you foolishness and indeed, we think you are of the liars.Chapter 7, Verse 66, Have you come to us that we should worship Allah and leave what our fathers worshiped? Prophet Muhammad () descended from Ismail ( ), http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649, http://saudi-archaeology.com/sites/madain-saleh/, The blind companion and killing of the concubine, Islamic identity of Rm (Rome) and Romans II, The Benefits of the Presence of Ambiguous Verses in the Quran, Islamic Stance on Astrology and its related Sciences. There was a great influx of Arab tribes into Khuzestan from the 16th to the 19th century, including the migration of the Banu Ka'b and Banu Lam from the Arabian desert. The tribes of Arabia engaged in nomadic herding and agriculture since 6000 BCE. The Thamud (Arabic: , romanized:amd) were an ancient Arabian tribe or tribal confederation[1] that occupied the northwestern Arabian peninsula between the late-eighth century BCE, when they are attested in Assyrian sources, and the fifth century CE, when they served as Roman auxiliaries. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. [Prophet], it is your Lord who is the Strong, the Mighty One. What do u think? : | _ books. These two groups are considered to be ancestors to modern day Arabs. This individual was probably a merchant or official in service of the Babylonian court. Having similar names doesnt mean much A report in the hadith collection of Bukhari makes this connection between Thamud and al-Hijr quite explicit. The absence of evidence here is no evidence of absence. [5] In 1846, many Arab Rashaida migrated from Hejaz in present-day Saudi Arabia into what is now Eritrea and north-east Sudan after tribal warfare had broken out in their homeland. But as well see below, archaeological and literary records place them firmly in Northern Arabia/Jordan, well after the death of Jesus (33 AD). They are mentioned in the Quran as examples of civilizations that Allah had destroyed because of their sins and as signs of the fleeting nature of the worldly power. The Prophet ordered that the drinking water be split and the flour given to the camels, and he ordered them to drink the water from the well to which the she-camel (of Salih) had come. They felt that their habitations would, somehow, secure them from destruction. Hud ( ) was sent to Ad and after their destruction, Thamud inherited the land. Is Thamud mentioned in the Bible? The general consensus among 14th-century Arab genealogists is that Arabs are of three kinds: The Hawazin tribe and the Quraysh tribe are considered Adnani Arabs. Id hate to be the one to rain on the holy Christian parade, but this inanity has to be responded to. Nothing but solid rock underlies the rest of the facades. Unfortunately, both nations rejected their prophets. 62-63]. . It is generic for multitude of civilizations Thats it. Aad and Thamud are two of several communities described in the Quran as recipients of Gods chosen prophets and being utterly destroyed for rejecting them. Even though they built great sculptures, they werent extremely sophistated people. So youd then say that the buildings at Madain Salih were indeed originally Thamudic and then after that built upon by other nations? In my research, I did discover that the tombs do contain pre-Nabatean inscriptions. In addition, when the verses talk about Verily there is a sign in this, it doesnt necessarily mean that we have to see the sign i.e. The hadiths show that there were wells present in that particular spot attributed to the Thamud. Thamud were destroyed It had no written law, but the tribal leader played the role of ruler. you who live in the clefts of the rocks, This is an article I recently wrote. See the video here (arabic): https://youtu.be/yjRjkjQ-VEA, Me however I lean towards that Madain Saleh is not the place for the Quranic Thamud like Dr Thiaeb (linguist of ancient arabic and archeologist) has been repeatedly saying at least since 1995, because among other reasons that Madain Saleh lacks all the marks of Gods wrath, the earth quake levelling Thamud etc. http://www.imgrum.org/media/1483126817820752683_724804649 Its not an easy read, especially as most of the stories leave the reader perplexed in terms of their relevancy to ones personal life or attainment of anything didactic that enriches or nurtures a relationship with God. Though no one knows for sure when either of these groups existed, it is clear from the Quran that the Aad were successors to the people of Noah. Its in their records, that we find out first mention of Thamud. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are yet to be discovered. Compounding the confusion is the fact that the tribal name Thamud is applied today to a broad section of different peoples throughout history, not only to those mentioned in the Quran. These include Sunni Huwala and Achomi people, who compromise of both fully Arab and mixed Arab-Persian families. Or symbolic its talking about the left more of a legacy in there story. Trying to make sense of this mad, mad world, And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], Worship Allah and avoid Taghut. And among them were those whom Allah guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. In other words either the evidence no longer exists (no problem) or Thamudic dwellings in North West Arabia are. It is not specific to the 2 Arab tribes. 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