Tags: drug test help meps Justlovedogs New Member #1 Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 Ok so here's the thing, I'm not a regular smoker. Which is that if you pass the 50ng test in the office, they do not test it further, and only test for 15ng if you fail the initial one in the office. My recruiter had me take a few tests and I took a few at home as well and passed them all. Hb```f``rA@l(G,,X^#qB1:_(tA,pf.fbo. It is important to keep in mind that the people who are sick in our minds are in no way the people we are testing for drugs. What does MEPS check for? :@wp[jT}=|3{cmX&pIHV t)a6y0G;:vtt$`GqGp j"Z#
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35 days is plenty for me to get clean and I smoke all day every day. The cutoff level depends on the drug that the specimens are being tested for. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This is why I really need to know if what I've heard is true. Current policy allows for different standards for reapplication depending on the type of drug, Martin said. 0000041427 00000 n
JCY2K 5 yr. ago There's two tests with two different cutoffs. Does anyone know for sure how it works? Will I pass? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I have to answer this question. He is really pushing me to just go but I am hesitant until I can pass the more sensitive tests. SECRETARIES OF THE MILITARY DEPARTMENTS. Drug testing for all applicants for military service is expanding to include the same 26-drug panel used for active military members, the Defense Department's director of drug testing and program policy said. I am done for good. But, I smoke a lot. But I've heard the opposite too. Cookie Notice I'm assuming because of this brand new account of mine. For more information, please see our I want to know FOR SURE whether or not the MEPS drug test they give you is truly just 50 ng or if it is actually 15 ng. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! Do not encourage lying. I took 2 first check marijuana drug test and a drug test for my work and passed all three. hmo0%lv,JA1m0(j6)M! endstream
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I would like to tell you that I think that the people who believe in meps drug test cutoff level are most likely right. No worries man. I can pass the 50 ng ones currently (I tested myself for it today and passed) however, if it is a 15 ng test then I may not pass. I'm saying in many instances the military does not bring or protect freedom, instead it brings threats to people all over the world. but TRUST MEYOU CAN.YOU own your life, NOT your recruiter.and by the way..WHATEVER they are "promising" youGET IT IN WRITING. Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. Now we are policing the world. If not then you don't. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. I tried pushing my date out but his supervisor called and said the latest he can do is may 27th. When the concentration of a drug or metabolite exceeds the linear range of the standard curve, the laboratory may record the result as "exceeds the linear range of the test" or as "equal to or greater than ," or may dilute an aliquot of the specimen to obtain an accurate quantitative result when the concentration is above the upper limit of the linear range. I've been clean for over a month. I really dont think you want to be that guy whos ripped off his bunk in bootcamp because you have no self control. They retest the same sample with stricter limitations to confirm it. hbbd```b``"H.u0/`2 D2H^Xdm"IF;1 XDf Ll`OT'3q~` =s
Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. Currently, military applicants are tested for marijuana; cocaine; amphetamines, including methamphetamine; and designer amphetamines such as MDMA -- also known as Molly or Ecstasy -- and MDA, also known as Adam, he said. be used for the analytes within the group. gc'"/]W"JlBd6*7Q_XnzV%'A6A'AMRD+2)7v Copyright 1999 - 2022 Grasscity.com is a part of, (You must log in or sign up to post here. Think about it. My recruiter told me i had to wait 15 days to take another one. I just don't know if I'm clean or not yet. In the case of urine analysis, drug testing cutoff levels are measured in nanograms per milliliter (ng/ml). 4 Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. I never get the exact same responses as I do with most other questions. As far as the question of meps drug test cutoff level goes, that is a very difficult question. 0
I'm so worried that I will pass the initial test but get a callback later telling me I failed the lab test. Pursuant to DoDI 1010.01, drug testing will be conducted to deter Service members, including those members on initial entry and on active duty after enlistment or appointment, from abusing drugs, including illegal drugs, substances, and prescription medications. Sorry Im kinda in the same boat Im 60 days clean and Im going to be going to Meps in like 30 days from now so Ill be 90 days (3months) clean by then I vaped delta8thc daily and would go through a cart a month. A military drug test is more stringent than most. https://www.utestdrugtesting.com/product/thc-15/ If you cant pass this test Id said wait until you can pass it. Funny that people that join the military are supposed to "protect" freedomhmmm.maybe they're lying to us? I quit for good. From what I understand, the cutoff is for normal "clean" is 50ng and that is what most people refer to when they say "it only takes 30 days". Ive been stressing about it through this whole process. If you dont pass the initial screening. I stopped smoking 35 days ago and I do not intend to smoke any more. most people, including my self will get kosher salt, dump 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of it into an 8floz water bottle and a few dashes of lemon concentrate, shake it up and drink it. Why? 3329 0 obj
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"Applicants need to be aware of the standard we hold our service members to when they join the service.". I am the same as the protagonist in the game, which is why I am the one who has to be drug tested. Thursday morning my recruiter calls and says my waiver was approved. It's random, but it's not 100% once you are in. For LSD Initial Test Level was . [73 FR 17212 Mar. But I'm freaking out about the possibility of failing once it goes to the lab. Then again only some of those are tested. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. I'm gonna order a quest test this week just to confirm since that's a lab test. The military considers anything over 10 nano grams as a failure. But, Keep this in mind. The update to Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16 was published Feb. 27. please let me know. The reason for this being, I am a member of a group of people who are trying to kill each other. Meps drug test cutoff Discussion in ' Marijuana Consumption Q&A ' started by Justlovedogs, May 17, 2020 . Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. 0000001414 00000 n
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Cut-off levels exist so that trace amounts that sometimes pop up in samples, like the alcohol . the sum of the analytes present. So I asked this question in another post recently but wasnt precise enough about the question itself and was kind of vague. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? d))Q[Ya ^'P$%hI8aUB)lF< @3@q&0pB2 t(`R0v0 51Hx Z$"'@9vb9$tcjlh8NM@,J/`i analyte. endstream
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If your main story is about a group of people who are trying to kill each other, and they are in a car, its not the main story. Just as any UA, the MEPS UA checks for the 5 mainly abused drugs: Cocaine, Marijuana, Amphetamines and Barbiturates, Opiates and PCP. ). The Department of Defense provides the military forces needed to deter war and ensure our nation's security. But, that is if they decide not to waive your signing bonus and that you are a lost cause. But I do get a lot of yeah, I guess thats true. Oh, Ive never tried that. Hmm, I cant believe that happened. He would be enlisted right away. I weigh about 172 and workout a lot but dont run a lot will the 15 days extra be enough for me to pass the recruiters test and meps test? Time to stop smoking once you inDon't risk your carer on a joint. I'm not a heavy smoker but Wednesday night I couldn't sleep so I took a couple hits off a pen I had and Thursday morning my recruiter called and told me my waiver was approved and they want to send me to meps on the 27th I bought home tests for both cut offs but I just was . Dude I am not trying to circumvent anything. Interested in Officer programs? ",>{ ,!2w-`/n;=AA&3=i*[05ALwd*Oi e 2B3z
Everyone is different but the rule of thumb is 30 days, you should be good to go. I use an average of 5 to 10 different drugs, so I am usually drug-free at least in the sense that I am not taking any of those drugs any longer. January 1988-MEPS testing for THC and Cocaine started. One time it took me 40 days to show up clean. 0000000897 00000 n
I can pass 50ng home tests all day long. It takes closer to 3 months to get below that threshold, and I am apparently not there yet. I've seen tons of people saying that if you pass the initial test at MEPS, they do not test it further at the lab. Also, MEPS will find any little thing to disqualify you just cause it makes their job easier to rule you out. Yup USAF operates off of odd and evenIf your squadron is the lucky people to get called to pee, it will depend on your last SS number. Downvoted for wining Here's the real issue, why is it something you're trying to chance? I quit for 3 months before and still showing up I had to get a waiver for it and still took a act of Congress to convince them it is not who I am I was in same place as you listening to the recruiter. Some extra tips are, DON'T WORK OUT THE DAY'S BEFORE MEPS AND ESPECIALLY THE DAY OF MEPS .. this will burn off some fat, hence burning the THC into your bladder and you might pop your drug test if you do so.. All in all.. My MEPS experience was positive because you have to make it positive.. An official website of the United States Government, Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, (Follow Lisa Ferdinando on Twitter: @FerdinandoDoD), Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil, Department of Defense Instruction 1010.16. You have entered an incorrect email address! Im like 51 and 140 pounds.
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Everything You Need To Know About How To Start A Cannabis Business. (iii) The laboratory shall report the numerical values obtained from this special analysis to the MRO. I've ordered several home tests that have a 20ng cutoff (could not find a 15ng test) and I've failed every single one!!! with a fast metabolism. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. I go to MEPS soon and it will be 24 days since I last smoked on the day of the drug test. Unfortunately, I am not at the stage where I would want to take a drug test to detect a specific drug. Privacy Policy. one analyte from the group identified as the target
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But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. so you think America is an awful country ???? Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. (2) Each confirmatory drug test must provide a quantitative result. The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall: a. But assuming I can't. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). trailer
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Whatever. This is what you need: https://www.navycs.com/blogs/2008/07/09/military-drug-and-alcohol-testing. I just don't know if I'm clean enough yet to join or not. Fyi I enlisted in the Air Force, which is the most difficult branch to get into. Im joining the marine eeserves by the way. 2 Either a single initial test kit or multiple initial test kits may be used provided the single test kit detects each target analyte independently at the specified cutoff. Meaning that if your sample test has a lower metabolite count than the cut-off level, your test will show a negative result. You will be fine. Ua2?Y+S
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Choose which Defense.gov products you want delivered to your inbox. If you pass it you get in. All MEPS applicants' urine samples are tested for three thingsglucose, protein, and a comprehensive drug testand female applicants' urine samples are additionally tested for HCG (pregnancy). Data indicates that about 450 additional people will test positive using the expanded testing, he said. But MEPS apparently confirms lab tests at 15ng. %PDF-1.5
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I may or may not have been in the same predicament. The first test is a cheap and fast immunoassay screen. When I drank the next 2, I still got the faint line and had to postpone my MEPS physical for the 2nd time. the other analyte(s) within the group must be 80 percent
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I'm not going to smoke anymore and I'm not trying to pull one over on the military. and our © 2022 Design & Developed By CBD Puff Bars. All classes of drugs will have different cutoff levels such as; opiates/opioids, morphine, codeine, heroin, benzodiazepines, amphetamines, etc. Its 50ng/ml initially and 15ng/ml for confirmation. Hey dude, I thought it was 50 ug/ml but if it's 15 I wouldn't chance it. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. (a) Initial drug testing. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Meps is a Military Entrance Processing Station. The new standards apply to all military applicants, including recruits entering through military entrance processing stations, as well as appointees to the service academies, incoming members of the ROTC, and officer candidates undergoing initial training in an enlisted status. The test you linked me is similar to ones I've been failing :(. Guess it was a mistake coming here. Get more prepared in the meantime. It literally leaves your system in 30 days. Edit: Guys I do not smoke anymore and I'm not trying to cheat anything! 0000001051 00000 n
But I took a few hits off a pen on Wednesday night. Im 19, 60, 140 lbs. hb```,lfB 0.5 ng/mL and Confirmatory Test Level was 0.4 ng/mL. About 279,400 applicants are processed for entry into military service each year, with roughly 2,400 of them testing positive for drugs, Martin said. You should try not to risk yourself when you know that if you fail your life plan will be very different than what you thought. Meps drug test cutoff . I am the protagonist this story is about. You must log in or register to reply here. What Are The Major Difference Between Smoking And Vaping Weed. All recruits complete a medical questionnaire and undergo an evaluation that includes height and weight measurements, hearing and vision exams, urine and blood tests, and drug and alcohol tests. The cutoff for these things is 50 ng/mL but in the military, the confirmation level is 15 ng/mL. Cut-off levels are the defined amounts you can have in your system before you are considered positive for a specific drug. But thing is it's your life your goal stop doing it and wait until you can pass trust me on this. I dont want to say that I am 100% drug-free, because there are still some things that I do want to completely rid myself of. HQK024ImPW+_:)c I also used to be in the Army, and I was the units UPL (unit prevention leader), so i administered the tests (I know hyprocitical me, lol but I wasnt smoking while I was in), they test for the same cut off level as most places, 50ng. 0
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