The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. As a side note, the block has over 150k on it and the bores are still within a thou of origional specs, there are no ring marks at the top and you can still see the factory cross-hatch. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. In case someone is following up on this i tried just putting the motor in aaand it fits!!! The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. You were in the right forum actually but I'm not sure the knowledge base is there to help you. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. Team Lovetap is a Swedish drift team started by driver and fabricator Mrten Stngberg. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. Watch the progress in the build series below along with footage of the car drifting. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. JavaScript is disabled. Navigation Menu . The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. you have a diamond in the rough. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. An additional option is to have a high pressure diagnostic port installed as well since this port will be lost from switching to the M104 A/C manifold. Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. I guess a V8 it sorta out of the questionand seems kinda pointless. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. i dont think i need to do anything to the firewall. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. via Engine Swap Depot and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? How much power can you get out of the 16v? It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Learn how your comment data is processed. If you have an E320 sedan and want more power, start shopping for an E420 with ASR and heated seats, rust-free, in your favorite color combo. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. It barely sticks now when floored. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). 20cm is slightly too long). Sweden for a dyno tune. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Said it made around 345hp(?) Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v Read More Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six 1994 Mercedes Wagon with a Turbo LSx - Part 14 July 9, 2018 W124 Learn how your comment data is processed. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. He is an electrical wizard. However, The flywheel is going to be a problem for you. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. Hi Adriano. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. We had a 5.0L from an 80's mercedes, 240bhp, but decided to go with the higher revving motor. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. Makes a fantastic daily driver. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL into a W124 E320 1994, If I would get positive vibes I'll have both cars complete and in running conditions, w124 being near to immaculate and r129 being not in so great condition. __________________. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. Is that a street car? I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. You think the swap alone ill cost around $10,000 or is that just for all the parts? 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. It replaced the M103 and was replaced by the M112 V6 starting in 1997. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. Could any of yall point me in the right direction to d this? The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. The M104.98x introduces a new vacuum nipple. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. Connect common ground at intake manifold. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. Maybe a steering unit from a w210? the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Power will be greater with an LS swap. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! For those unfamiliar with the project, it's powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a . I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! It was built for the track and drifting. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. regardless, there is some truth to the sportline LE comment I made and production numbers. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Your original gearbox will work fine with the new engine, but bear in mind it's much easier to remove the gearbox and engine together than separate them in the car. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. Is a swap possible? In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The Mercedes-Benz M104 is a straight-6 automobile engine produced from 1989 through 1999. you really should join the 190 forum (sorry, i don't have a link) as The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. Navigation Menu. Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? You are using an out of date browser. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. it isnt a direct swap. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" Lower hose is only about 20cm long. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. What can be done and how much will it cost? My M104 is a 99 hfm. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. The secondary firewall and motor mounts are also positioned differently to accommodate the extra length of the M103. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. Inside the car you find a custom six-point roll cage, Takata 6-point harness, Sparco Evo 2 seats. Well, I am right with you. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. all that accumulated grease and oil. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. Learn how your comment data is processed. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. w16302ML500 w21097E50Amg w20299C230K w12494420e /==>w12495320e-199u (needs elec TLC) /GreatWhiteNorth Kanada, I dont think w210 would be the right forum for this but i changed it, 89 190E2.6- 5-speed Manual - 200K miles, 95 E320 Sportsline-sold, 2001 E320 4matic Wagon-sold. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. Use your original engine mounts and exhaust downpipe, these are a direct fit to the m104. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). this is why my mercedes is a stock classic show car and my NA volvo 850 GLT is going to me my tuned performance car. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. the volvo is a non turbo auto which will become a t-5R 5 spd in the future. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. Will be taking it there soon so I'll post my times. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. Removed the front bumper, upper radiator support, radiator, condenser, and engine harness. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. weren't there like 100 sportline LEs built for the USA and 100 for europe? : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Aftermarket is obviously with the LS. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? Now that I'm fully woken up and on my third cup of coffee, I also want to mention that the KE-Jet M119 has a completely different computer and electronics setup than the LH-based M119 cars. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. 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